Top 5 Sellouts of Rock

1. Billy Corgan- such a precipitous collapse and sell out has never occurred in the history of rock and roll. While totally dispelling rumors that he was the sole mastermind behind the Smashing Pumpkins, Corgan totally sold out for money by produced the lumbering and disgraceful “modern rock classic” (ha!) that is Zeitgeist. Siamese Dream is one of my favorite albums while Zeitgeist may well be my most hated one. I don’t know whether it is because it is awful (it honestly has the feel of a Nickelback album) or whether it is because it’s such a colossal disappointment; but the album was really a dagger in the heart of SP fans. To go from one of the leading innovators in rock to producing an album like Zeitgeist is almost unthinkable. It’s not just a misstep, it’s a career and legacy killer. At the time of their break up I refused to listen to Iha’s and Wretzky’s comments that Corgan is an asshole. Today, I have his picture on my wall with several knives stuck to it.

 

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2. Liz Phair- Liz Phair’s fall from grace is legendary to any lover of serious music. Exile and Guyville, Whip Smart, and whitechocolatespaceegg are great listens to anyone with decent taste in music. However, her self titled debacle marked a swift and revolting decent into mainstream (I use that word in its most negative sense), fake/angry/white chick territory. Not only was it a swift kick into thousands of fans asses, but the fact that she was so open about selling out was almost too much to take. Another thing that makes this album hurt so badly is that, sometimes, under those sterile vocals and lyrics, you catch a glimpse of the old Liz. Luckily, Phair doesn’t toy with you long; she is quick to deliver a sappy, contrived morsel to help you realize that the old Liz is dead. Many would have Phair’s sell out as number one, but I had to reserve that spot for a man that went from a veritable god to a spineless charlatan.

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3. Weezer- Man, Rivers Cuomo grosses me out. I don’t care if the reason for his sell out was caused by his OCDish yearning to be accepted (a theme made apparent in both pre and post sell out songs). The only defense I have for Weezer is that at least they warned us about Make Believe ahead of time. It wasn’t blatant, but if you assessed the pattern of each of their releases it should have warned you about what Make Believe was destined to become. Blue Album was incredible; Pinkerton was surprisingly good; Green Album had its moments; Maladroit really made you assess why you are a Weezer fan; anybody notice the downward spiral? As for Make Believe I will avoid obscenities and just say that it was in Zeitgeist territory. While it was kind of sad watching Weezer get progressively worse with each release, I now want to thank the band for giving us advanced warning about their latest record, and I only wish I was smart enough to listen.

Weezer band picture

 

4. Dave Grohl- Yes, Dave Grohl. This one might be a bit of a surprise for a lot of you. The first three are quite obvious, but I am going to make my case for the inclusion of Dave in sell out lists from this day on. Fact one: Dave Grohl was totally the man in Nirvana. Fact two: The Foo Fighters first release was quite good. Fact three: each album got progressively worse and more homogenous until Echoes mercifully broke the trend, proving to be a bit better than In Your Honor. Fact four: Dave is now extremely overrated and our hope for Dave to be Kurt’s successor is all but gone. Kurt Cobain certainly rolled over in his grave with the single that marked a crescendo in Dave Grohl’s sell out- “Best of You.” Although he has done it insidiously, the progression towards mediocrity (and into mainstream rock superhero) is undeniable. It took me years, but I now have the courage to say it. Dave Grohl, you are a sell out and your band is overrated!

 

Dave Grohl

5) Metallica- I made you guys sweat it out a little. I’m sure a couple of you were almost ready to write an incredulous comment asking where the !@#$ Metallica was. If there was a Princeton case study for the art of selling out, it would have to be conducted on Metallica. I have to admit, I’m not a typical Metallica fan, and I think that Black Album is their best work by far; so I guess take my words with a grain of salt. I’m even not a big fan of some of the classics, like “Master of Puppets” (I have suffered several hate messages over on the Metallica list for this). Yet I do join the ranks in asserting that anything this band has done and will do after Black Album is worthless. Apart from a couple decent singles from Load I have pretty much given up on hearing anything of interest from this band.

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Comments 

 
+1 #1 Trevor 2010-09-28 15:10
Really? I think there's a difference between "making crap music" and "selling out". I.e. the Rolling Stones "Start Me Up" as the pitch song for Windows 95, or hell, what about the Kiss Dr. Pepper commercials or the Ozzbournes?! SOOOOOO many better choices than Grohl. Give those sideburns a break.
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+2 #2 therealrockczar 2010-11-09 09:14
Generally I like your site my friend, but having Dave Grohl in the top 5 sellouts is so misguided and the argument you make for it is such a impressively weak one. Aside from the fact that 'best of you' is actually a very good song and it, as well as others, are pretty similar to the early work you decided was 'quite good'. You will find with writing there is a fine line between a articulate argument and a completely unrelated and unsupported opinion, sadly you fall in the later category far to often it seems. You overstepped the mark with Mr. Grohl and really have done or said nothing to back up this......
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+1 #3 therealrockczar 2010-11-09 09:15
I could back it up for eternity and a day. Every single Grohl album had heart, soul and sweat thrown into it and stays true to rock. He also even loves the music so much (and not the money equating to a sellout) he played intensly on lesser bands like probot (who made no money or garnered any fame) and queens of the stone age FOR FREE just to rock out. He is incredible to his fans and his live performances have, and still are always amazing and heartfelt using up everything he has, much more so than say a Oasis, who clearly just threw out a few albums for the cash. If you wanted to make a sellout claim against a big name to garner attention, you could have at least chose someone you could have made an argument for, how about Axle Rose for one? who has taken years to throw out a uninspired album......
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0 #4 therealrockczar 2010-11-09 09:16
and charged triple normal ticket price for concerts he was hours late for and played only a handful of songs, that is a good argument, not just stake a claim to someone like Grohl with no fluid argument. You say he is staking his claim toward rock superhero mainstream, and so many uneducated people make the mistake of automatically saying once an artist is mainstream or sells too many records they are a sellout and its all horrible, the fact is if someone who is not mainstream is good enough for a long enough period of time to make the mainstream take this sort of notice, well sir thats just about as not sell out as you can be despite the irony - playing the same hardcore music you always did and being so good you make the people on masse stand up and take notice and give them no choice.
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0 #5 therealrockczar 2010-11-09 09:17
Thats incredible talent and heart, and will to succeed.....no traits there of a sellout. Every single one of Daves albums was powerful and served as a sledgehammer smashing against the skulls of a wide disinterested general public to the point they had to take notice. Subsequently he sold a lot of records and continues to but you know what, a sellout can always be found out when there sales start to dip and people see them for the sellout they are, so Dave constantly selling millions EVERY time is merely a barometer of his hard work and undeniable ability. Next time...at least make an argument.
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-1 #6 RE: Top 5 Sellouts of Rocktimmyt 2011-04-12 09:52
Speaking of Dave 'yes he is a sell-out' Grohl - see the piece on him in Slate this weekend? 'How did a drummer who never intended to make money from music end up as one of the biggest and wealthiest rock stars?'

www.slate.com/id/2290837/
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-2 #7 RE: Top 5 Sellouts of RockThe Rock Czar 2011-04-13 23:31
Very good article. Nice find, Timmy. Dave Grohl is still probably the least unlikeable person on this list...

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-1 #8 RE: Top 5 Sellouts of RockJoe 2011-10-07 17:46
As I was scrolling down I was like, "Dave Grohl should be on this list, but he's probably not." Then I got to DG and I was like, "YES!"

Other sellouts: Every member of Green Day. DOOKIE was the shit.
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+2 #9 RE: Top 5 Sellouts of RockThe Rock Czar 2011-10-07 21:13
I loved them through American Idiot. I don't think they sold out so much as just stopped making good music.

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